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with Prasad Gunewardena |
'No peace for Tamils with Prabhakaran alive'
Profile
Name - Keheliya Rambukwella
School - S.Thomas" College, Mt. Lavinia
Civil Status - Hotelier/Film Producer
Political Career - Member, Central Provincial Council
(1993) and Provincial Minister (1994) - (1999)
Entered Parliament - 2000
Positions held - Subject Minister of Science and
Technology Joined the present
Government - 2006
Positions held - Subject Minister of Policy
Development and Implementation
Current Portfolio - Cabinet Minister of Foreign
Employment Promotion & Defence Spokesman on National Security
This young man had many plans from his school days. But, he never
wanted to be a politician. Born to wealthy parents in the country's hill
capital, Kandy, he had his primary education at S.Thomas' College,
Gurutalawa. Later, he moved to S. Thomas' College, Mt. Lavinia. He was a
fine sportsman at school playing cricket, tennis, swimming, table tennis
and squash.
He was awarded 'colours' for many of these games. The man in focus,
Keheliya Rambukwella was a mischievous young boy in school, very popular
among students and the tutorial staff.
He is the youngest film producer in Sri Lanka, a record to date, he
produced the box office hit-"Sakvithi Suvaya"- in 1979, which starred
film legend Gamini Fonseka in the lead.
Having done his Post-Graduate Degree at the Hotel School, Keheliya
served as a top managing executive in the hotel trade when his friend,
the late Gamini Dissanayake forced him into politics of the Democratic
United National Front (DUNF) when the UNP split during the reign of
President Ranasinghe Premadasa.
A man above board who inherited enormous wealth from his parents and
ancestors, Keheliya Rambukwella entered politics by accident.
This fearless character as in his childhood is prepared to brave
himself for the sake of the country with the belief-'Country first and
family second".
It was in that backdrop, Keheliya Rambukwella, the former Thomian,
who holds a Doctorate in Defence Studies, expressed the following views
as a politician and a Minister during this brief interview:
Q: Mr.Rambukwella, you were inspired into politics by the late Gamini
Dissanayake. Ranil Wickremesinghe seems to have introduced you into the
mainstream of parliamentary politics in making you a subject Minister of
Science and Technology.
SLFP leader President Mahinda Rajapaksa has given you the opportunity
to serve the people as a Cabinet Minister in addition to being the
Defence Spokesman of his Government. How do you view their leadership
qualities?
A: Primarily I would say that one of the distinct qualities of
President Mahinda Rajapaksa is the ability to identify spheres of each
one's excellence. It is an experience that I saw in late Gamini
Dissanayake. I believe if you are looking at a leadership and if you are
a leader, the first thing is to identify the abilities of each one in
your team.
If you get misfits into your team, how important or less important is
the encounter is not the question. Even in a machine you should have the
right wheel at the right place to move it well. If you have the wrong
wheel at the wrong place even though the machine may look very
sophisticated, the functions and the output will not be as expected.
Similarly, President Rajapaksa is able to identify people who have
the scope and also give responsibility without reservation. Have trust
and faith in the person you select. You must not give something and
doubt it. That's a very remarkable quality of leadership.
A leader must always identify the ability of person, trust him, take
him to your confidence, and give him responsibility with authority.
You cannot give responsibility without authority for a man to
perform. In most instances you see people given responsibility and when
they blossom, the appeal of insecurity accrues to some people and
thereby they try to hold him back. Also one must have confidence in
himself to part with his responsibilities.
You see late President JR Jayewardene just called few young people
like Gamini Dissanayake and Lalith Athulathmudali in whom he saw
potential and gave them their responsibilities with authority.
That is very important. I see all these qualities embedded in the
character of President Mahinda Rajapaksa. I believe that's the way to
get about. You see, you should never suspect or hold back your
lieutenants.
Q: My dear friend, is that an indication that Ranil Wickremesinghe
lacks those qualities?
A: I am not saying that. I was only telling you about what is
available with other persons. You can come to your own conclusions and I
have no objections.
Prasad, you know that from my school days, I only debate issues and
have never stooped to the low level of hurling insults or making
unwarranted criticism on personalities, be they individuals or public
figures.... I hail from a decent family and I was educated in a good
school like you. And that's how I am, still my friend!
Q: Since you were a colleague of mine at school, tell me what made
you take to politics because you are not a free man today to move about
as in your school days where you were even seen at many places as a
'happy go lucky man'? Because, Keheliya Rambukwella was known as the
most 'outgoing' man in the class 'free moving' those days.....
A: Well you have different spheres in your phases in life. Probably,
although one may try to project himself as his self, being a Buddhist I
believe in Karma and destiny.
Basically there is a driving force behind you, which you can't
believe or explain. I feel that is the case when it comes to me because
I still call myself an accidental politician.
Q: But... you were the most free and 'happy go lucky man' in our
class?
A: I am a 'happy go lucky man' even now though at times some people
call me a "VIP Prisoner". The response I get as a politician from the
public being in the middle age, as we two are now (laughter as both have
already passed the half century milepost), I feel there is a
responsibility by the country.
Though I may lack in the freedom to go about in my 'youthfulness' to
enjoy, the issue of 'enjoy' must be examined in its' correct
perspective. It all depends on what you are looking in life. In my case,
as you know I had the best in my youth and looking back I have no
regrets.
With all limitations of movement and all risks involved I think I am
happy and duty bound by the country. If I only looked at my five member
family, they would have been happier with me having more time for them.
They would have also had certain privileges in larger measures than
at present. Instead of looking at five people, I am looking at a country
of nearly twenty million people. In my role as Defence Spokesman, I feel
satisfied as I feel I have done something for my country.
Q: Coming to your role as Defence Spokesman, do you feel that the
killing of Thamilselvan is a victory of the present administration in
the drive against terrorism or is it a victory of the Armed Forces?
A: You can use little bit of both. First thing, I believe in
humanity. Killing of anybody is not a matter of joy. Given the context
and the background in which we work, there is also the issue of larger
interest of the public. Democracy is vital to the public.
There is terror unleashed irrespective of the community one belongs
to. It is vested upon the rulers to ensure that the people are safe. In
the drive to promote terror, Thamilselvan played a major role. At the
last peace talks, he played a lead role.
There, we wanted to discuss core issues directly related to the Tamil
people, he was a visible obstacle. On the second occasion in Geneva, he
hung onto the A-9 Road issue. Why? They were extorting the people on
that highway.
You cannot call them taxes as such levies are only made by local
bodies and the Inland Revenue Department. You cannot have a good
terrorist or a bad terrorist nor have two faces. A terrorist is a
terrorist.
On the second trip to Geneva he was accompanied by a man called Alex
whom Thamilselvan identified as a photographer. In fact, Alex was highly
a technical man dealing with night vision and communication equipment.
On their return, unlike previous times, we did some checking and found
out catalogues of military hardware and high tech equipment.
Obviously, the trip Thamilselvan made with that type of smiling face
was to strengthen the terror organisation he represented.
When we wage a battle against terrorism as a policy of the country to
defeat terrorism, he was one of the major components of that scenario of
terrorism.
Q: Whenever there is a controversy on the achievements in the
battlefront, there appears a contradictory nature that persists in
statements made by Government politicians. You are one who is accused in
that respect. You are the official Defence Spokesman. Do you feel that
too many cooks are spoiling the soup?
A: So far as my briefings are concerned, I am proud to say that I
have not lied to the public. This started with the Anuradhapura
incident. Given the background to it, it must be studied according to
the circumstances of evidence that surfaced from time to time after the
incident. It happened at 3.35 in the morning and I was contacted
immediately.
I was up from that time monitoring the developments. We were not
monitoring how many nuts and bolts were missing. We were concerned about
supplementing troops for reinforcement. That was the priority. The
damages caused had to be assessed in a process. The priority was to
defeat the attack. We were immediately not interested in counting
numbers.
When we sat for the press briefing at 9.30 am, at that time the
information was that three helicopters destroyed and a few were damaged.
But, I categorically said it could be much more and let's wait till
evening till the scene was cleared. When I sat to meet the press in the
morning, clearing was on at the scene of the attack. I did not lie at
anytime.
I was sad that the country is suffering in this manner with the
people first trying to ascertain the extent of damage caused to State
Forces that safeguard you and me rather than measures to overcome this
problem. Some people said if it was 50, it was better. That's the sad
kind of thinking of some of our people. It's very tragic.
When the September 11 attack on the World Trade Centre in US took
place, the Government announced the figures of the dead. And up to now
no one knows the exact number killed. No one has disputed that so far.
But, if it happened here, some people even would have joined the autopsy
to claim of additional bones found here and there.
Q: As a Cabinet Minister do you think that this war could be fought
for long as it causes immense damage to the economy?
A: I think that's a misconception. Why I say that is... if you look
at thirty years of this conflict in this country, it had, over the past
15 years increased expenditure in defence budgets.
What have we achieved over that 30 year period? This budget we have
put in 117 billion rupees. What we have achieved during the past two
years is far greater than what we achieved over the past 28 years.
Therefore, there are two options.
One is that we fought it for 30 years. We had many military
offensives. Every single leader made a genuine attempt to work with
Prabhakaran to arrive at some kind of settlement. It was never
successful.
Every time, in my view it was the LTTE and Prabhakaran who went back
on some flimsy item. We should be mature enough after episodes of 25-30
years; it is proved beyond reasonable doubt that every time the LTTE got
weakened, they moved for a ceasefire or peace talks to get an interval
to strengthen them militarily.
That's why you say it had affected the economy. Are we going to live
in the backyard forever? Are we going to abandon one of the options that
are left with us? The first option was to seek peace with Prabakaran
which seems to be not taking place.
Thirty years is a too long a period for us to believe in that with
Prabhakaran. Without Prabhakaran we should be able to look for it. We
have nothing to lose as we have lost everything basically. If we succeed
in this, we have won everything and even the world.
If you lose, you have not lost anything because you are back in
square one.
Q: That means as long as Prabhakaran is there, any Government will be
forced to continue the war?
A: It all happens on how you look at it. If you want you can
demarcate areas and give what Prabhakaran wants. That's not what Tamils
want. What Tamils want, we can sit and discuss. There are so many Tamil
leaders in this country who are democratically elected.
We can discuss with them. It is proved beyond doubt that Prabhakaran
does not want other views to be entertained.
Look at from Amirthalingam to Neelan Thiruchelvam....They were real
human beings we must be proud of, to sit and discuss matters. Neelan
during President Kumaratunga's time agreed on certain things. For that
he was killed.
It is a mythical thing to think you can achieve peace with
Prabakaran.Tamil people must realise that everything given to
Prabhakaran will be used to further destroy the future of the Tamils in
this country. Prabhakaran has deprived the basic right of the Tamil
children to education. Tamil civilisation and culture has been one of
the richest in value.
Today, the education of Tamils has been completely knocked out by
Prabhakaran. Look at Thamilselvan's funeral. A ten year old girl, clad
in military fatigue stands by the coffin.
On the contrary, Prabhakaran says he has no child soldiers. In
whatever way you look at it, it is terror and terror must be dealt in
the manner in which you should deal with terrorism.
At the same time, the Tamil issue should be given priority, priority
and priority. Look at the East; we have considered recruitment of 30 per
cent of manning police stations to the Tamil speaking people. That was a
very thorny affair.
You go to a police station in the East; you don't have the facility
to make a complaint in the language that you know. That's a very
humiliating issue. It's a deprivation of basic rights. These are things
that can be corrected and done.
There are many areas you need correction. Nearly 75 per cent issues
are administrative. If tomorrow a group of people cry for peace, what
will be their fate? They will meet with death. Therefore, you need to
eliminate destructive elements for us to achieve what is called - peace.
For that, you have certain methodologies to use. The defence
establishment has taken this task as a duty by the country. I am happy
about it. |